Now Voyager, I think you are far too hard on yourself.

I would hardly call it "dispicable behaviour" to avoid a situation where experience has taught you that could potentially turn into a nasty debarcle. That is merely self preservation, and there is nothing wrong with that.

It's all in how you rationalise it to yourself. What's wrong in taking the view that you are not going to get drawn into someone elses drama, or that you are not going to let someone elses negative energy suck you dry, or that you are not going to have a negative verbal exchange, because that's not the person you want to be.

What is it that you cannot stop screaming at yourself about? That you have been weak? Nonsense.

I would have done exactly the same thing, but I would have done it for the reasons above (said the queen of conflict avoidance!!),and then not felt guilt about it.

xx
08/06/08 @ 20:53
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Voyager, I agree with the lovely Ms Hart on this one. I have a family member who is very hard to deal with. I have battled with him and even in victory there is no great respite... you are not weak, by avoiding the conflict, just smart.

Keep your chin up
09/06/08 @ 17:01
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Thanks Sara & Blackspot,

I think it was the state I've let my personal life descend to that got me more that the specific situation. I specialise in conflict management (with avoidance a common and positive outcome) so typically have no issue with that.

I guess that I'm just deeply frustrated with the current situation that is proving so hard to move on from.

I'll get there (especially with the "encouragement" from new friends)
10/06/08 @ 08:30
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I hope you do slove these issues and move on from this part of your life. You sounded so miserable in that post.

Avoidance from drama is healthy. More of it will contuine to make it harder to move on.

Try to smile.

Nikki
15/06/08 @ 08:16
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Thanks Nikki & I'm working on the smile. Some wickedness despite the restrictions caused by daughter staying is in order so despite my normal shy reserve I'm exploring some adventures to put the "WOOHOO !!!" back in my smile.
15/06/08 @ 09:26
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Then I come home tonight, ex already here to see daughter who is sleeping off her latest alcohol excess to be told that I'm unreasonable in wanting daughter out of here & that "she's better off with you".

What about me I asked to be told that I should be grateful that she feels safe & happy here.

What about the fact that I can't have female friends within 20 feet I ask, whatever is the answer.

But before certain people climb in I'm standing my ground.

I know there is a trade off for caring for those you are responsible for brining into the world compared to the right to start a new life but enough is enough.
15/06/08 @ 18:20
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I think you have a right to start a new life and that you just have to tell the daughter you will be there for her but not at the expense of your own happiness.

We as parents can only do so much. We are still people in our own right and sometimes have to think of ourselves. You know weather there is someone in your life or not you will always be there for your daughter. Its now time for daughter to learn that. The only way she will learn is to live it.

While it may not be easy for the women that enters the picture as long as she knows what she is in for it may work. It may not but the more time you spend with the women in your life the more she will grow to understand you can do both things.

Maybe it might take a couple of relationships before she gets the message and maybe she might say she is out of there if you do bring women home but if she is old enough to buy alchol she is old enough to make her own choices and live with them. The only thing you have to do is let her know whatever her decision the door will always be open to her.

Tough love while hard is sometimes effective!
16/06/08 @ 10:18
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Don’t lose yourself to keep others happy as it is keeping yourself happy that will allow you bring joy to others.

Just my thoughts. I don’t fully know you situation. But sometimes we do have put ourselves first and live a little and remember whatever you do nothing is irreversible!

Guilt is a no end emotion and serves no purpose.
16/06/08 @ 10:25
One of my favourite theories is that you have to look after yourself before you can look after others (but then I may have taken that theory a little too far!!)
20/06/08 @ 12:48
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Agree....in all things but sex of course!!
20/06/08 @ 14:00



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